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Reports everywhere, and the Midori incident

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:30:31 +0000

Suddenly there's a burst of incident reporting going on, and there's at least one new incident-reporting group on FetLife Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links., plus reports in various rope groups.

We were the first, of course! Where ForumBondage leads, others follow.

There'll be the usual FetLife problems, inevitably. The same thing cross-posted in different groups so the responses are spread around. Too many places all doing very much the same job, making it difficult to find things and keep up with it all. And if you've spent much time on FL, you'll know what a lot of FL people can be like and the way that long discussions tend to go... FetLife serves a lot of needs very well, but IMO it does have a number of weaknesses too. We aim have a rather different environment here.

Anyway, the very well-known and respected Midori has recently had an Incident with a suspension. You don't have to be a FetLife member, you can read all about it on Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links., along with a lot of discussion including this quote, apparently from the woman who was dropped:
"Midori tied a slipknot on my sole load bearing suspension line, causing me to fall out of suspension onto the bare concrete floor"
If that is true - a suspension totally dependent on a quick-release slipped knot - all I'm going to say is that I'm very surprised. And I could say a lot more. I'm also tempted to revive the crash-mat discussion that got rather heated here some time ago...

Anyway, it seems as if this one ended badly, but not as badly as it easily might have done. And it certainly has many lessons for all of us.

The thinking man's kink

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:48:22 +0000

Years ago when I was just starting to go public, a fellow UK bondage producer said to me "Bondage is the thinking person's kink."

A conversation with a new member brought that line back to mind.

What do you think?

Failed hard point

Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:20:25 +0000

Our member Guilty posted this on FetLife, and he's said it's OK to re-post it here:

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Another incident worth mentioning (that I wasn't personally involved in, but warrants attention). At a club where I organise BDSM parties there was a beam being used for suspensions, a beam with two bolts in it. Those bolts were, however, not secured on the top side of the beam, and I always threw a rope over the beam to hang my ring.

At one of the other nights (there are other BDSM parties there than ours) a friend of mine used one of the bolts for suspension, and had his bunny crash into the floor. Fortunately there were no serious physical consequences that I'm aware of, but a year later the bunny was still afraid of being suspended again.

The bolts have now been secured on the top side of the beam, but I still throw my rope over the beam.

ALWAYS check your hard point, even at a club where you have seen other using that hard point. DON'T assume that because it's at a club the hard point is safe. At another club where I used to come they had a hard point in a medieval brick ceiling that needed four carefully balanced bolts to hold a sling up, and where one of the bolts had once come down - not just the bolt, but the bolt and a substantial part of the ceiling around it. There were people doing inverted supsenions from that hard point. Thank that club has been closed for several years and that no-one broke their neck.

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FetLife members can find the original and subsequent discussion Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links..

One important point made in the replies is to do with the practice of testing a hardpoint such as a bolt in a concrete ceiling by tying some rope to it and bouncing up and down on it. Passing this test says that the hard point was good enough when the test was done, but it doesn't tell you much about next time - particularly because the test itself might weaken things and make failure next time more likely.

How to buy a house

Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:26:41 +0000

look Sell my settlement

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Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:41:57 +0000

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Equal rope length during wrist ties

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:27:13 +0000

I am not quite sure if I didnt already open this thread, but I didnt find it with the search function, so here it is.

I have a problem to keep both rope length equal after lying the center of the rope over a body part - for example the wrists - especially if the rope is doubled. Usually ending up with two rope ends of different length which makes further steps difficult.

Typical problem is before the "wrap and cinch" between two wrists. Making some wraps around the wrists, turning the ends up to cross them and - holy crap - the ends are unequal.

Already marked the center of the rope, so I can be sure it is placed "in the middle" but I am still messing the ends up with unequal length which is quite frustrating because it keeps me away from further progress.

I can't practice much, which may be in fact the main reason, but maybe somebody having some tipps and tricks.

Already thought about trying with a shorter rope length first so I can have a better eye on the ends, but I dislike the idea, because that would mean to learn the same thing again with a longer (8m) rope.

It may sound silly to be stuck at such a basic thing, but well...it simply sucks.

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Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:45:34 +0000

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BIG CHANGES COMING

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:37:17 +0000

Regular visitors will know that we have been subjected to a flood of spambots and spam recently, and that attempts to control this using what are supposedly state-of-art defences have failed totally.

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Chest-loading TK

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:16:11 +0000

A day or three ago our member binderman posted a link to a YouTube video of an ingenious re-thinking of the Takate-Kote designed to reduce pressure on the upper arms during suspension. Unfortunately that thread got lost during some recent maintenance work.

Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links. is a link to Crash Restraint's blog where you will find several videos about this TK variation, and some other interesting things too. It's well worth a look for advanced riggers not too obsessed with sticking to standard Japanese forms.

Rope Corset

Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:27:36 +0000

I've been trying rope corset ties on my wife. Each time a little different, a little better, but still needing much more practice. She really likes it, both the process and the result.

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Breast implants

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:23:31 +0000

People outside the UK may not know that we are in the middle of a bit of a scandal about poor-quality low-cost silicone breast implants. These have been rupturing at an unexpectedly high rate, and leaking silicone gel into the surrounding breast tissue of the recipients. That would be bad enough if it was medical-grade silicone, but it isn't. It's an industrial product never designed, intended, or tested for surgical use. There are reports of some very unpleasant symptoms as the body reacts to the leaking silicone, and there are big arguments going on as to who is going to pay for the removal or replacement of thousands of these below-standard and unsafe "enhancements".

Relevance to us? Possibly not very much. But it's something to think about for those who like tight breast bondage. What's your position going to be if an implant ruptures during or soon after a session? What questions should you be asking before you start? Are there some risks that are not worth taking?

Attaching suspension lines to TK/harness

Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:04:34 +0000

Hello All

I'm in the process of learning suspensions and so far have done mostly yoko-tsuri's, using the inverted "Y" method to attach the suspension lines to the harness.

I wondered what people generally use to attach a suspension line to a TK/chest harness for a face up or face down suspension? I'm particularly interested in how to attach the lines to a face up TK without distorting the wrappings and keeping the tension even between the bands.

Do people use a totally different method for attaching lines to a chest harness rather than a TK?

Any info/links/input would be most excellent.

Thank you
Ruby x

For the attention of new members

Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:19:58 +0000

We've had a bit of an explosion of member numbers recently, so perhaps it's a good time to remind people who have joined during the last few weeks that their memberships become permanent only if they post something within 30 days of registering. If they don't, they get deleted.

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Nawa Pantsu?

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:28:18 +0000

I've come across this term in some threads, but I have no clue what this is, or what it looks like. I can't find anything useful online either.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
R

Suspension Stresses

Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:59:18 +0000

There seems to be quite a bit of mystery with how different suspension methods affect the body. I was reading the Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links. and was wondering how cinches affected the body... particularly the lower wrap cinches.

Then I thought, rather than postulate, isn't there a way we could measure this... crash test dummy style? What if you suspended a big block of wax or other similar impressionable medium as a way to visualize the stresses from suspensions?

I know there have been tons of suspensions performed, but in the interests of answering these types of questions I think this would be a neat idea.

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TK Critique

Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:46:58 +0000

I've suggested a TK review for our local rope group that will be meeting this Thursday, so I've been studying and practicing beforehand. I'd love some comments.

I've also suggested the theme for the night be 'Rope Tops Get Tied', so hopefully more domly dom rope tops will be inclined to let their guard down and experience rope from a different perspective. I know I'm looking forward to it.

I'm keeping most of my pics in Fetlife, as part of the agreement I have with my models is to not distribute the photos anywhere else. There will be some exceptions though.

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I've been using harper's PDF guides as the main study material for these. The discussions I've read about safety, nerves, and the meaning of cinches have been used as well.... including, of course, the fact that I'm beginning to know this particular model very well.

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Safety

Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:04:51 +0000

(small edit to Subject and Description after moving this post from its original location, content unchanged apart from the bit added at the end - harper)

I came across this on fetlife and thought it should be passed on. The poster was

DavidLawrence

A Riggers’ Responsibility
Avoid serious injury by checking & listening to the rope bottom!

This past Saturday I had the pleasure of attending an event in New York City. While there I performed three suspensions on three different women. One of them sticks in my mind and is my motivation for writing this short piece on a riggers’ responsibility to listening to his rope bottom. Here is what transpired.

Prior to beginning this rope scene I spoke in depth with the rope bottom. I described in detail what I was planning to do as it is an extreme tie. She is a ballerina and has a good understanding of her own body which was a positive for me. After discussing and gaining her approval we moved forward and began the tie.

Since I am a minimalist when it comes to rope I use less rope than some when doing suspensions. This tie was and is no different. Here is a description of the tie.

1. It begins with a chest harness with the arms bound behind the back. I use what I call coma/integrity knots to the left and right of the center column on the back which is then used to spread the load when the main load baring line is secured.

2. Once I secure the suspension line the rope bottom is on her toes, both feet on the ground. At this time I perform my first check…I simply ask…are you okay…her response was in the affirmative.

3. I then secure a rope around her ankle (I used the ankle that was attached to the leg that was 100% as her other leg had a minor knee injury). After securing the ankle rope I proceeded to bring her leg up into a split position. During this process I checked again to ensure she was okay. It turned out that she needed to have less stress on her leg and so I decreased the angle. She was maybe 70% to a split position. This was okay for her.

4. I then proceeded to the next step. I secured a rope around her thigh just below her knee on the leg that was raised. Once secured I brought that leg close to her body and used the suspension line as the wrap point to secure her leg to her body….her thigh and knee are now against her arm and shoulder (if you can picture that position). This is not an easy position to be in and the person you are tying into this should be flexible and have some experience with suspensions.

5. After securing the rope around the suspension line I wrapped the remainder of the working end of the rope two times around her thigh and chest…it looked hot by the way. I checked again at this point. What was expresses is that her right hand felt numb.

6. What I did at that point was to check her ability to grasp my hand and move her fingers which she was able to do without hesitation. There was no delay in response and her grip was firm. I let her know that nerve issues are one of my primary concerns and wanted to know if she felt any pain. She did not. I then let her know that losing some circulation while in suspension is common. I further explained that since she had no pain or discomfort then it was okay to continue. I would keep checking her at each step. She agreed to continue.

7. I tied a rope around her other ankle and proceeded to put her in an ankle to thigh tie. At this point she was suspended. She handled it very well for a few minutes but then stated that she had no feeling in her right hand.

8. I checked immediately and did notice that her grasp has less strength/firmness to it than it did a few minutes before. I asked about pain…she felt and had none. I made a judgment call to stop at that point and bring her down rather than continuing to the next step of the suspension.

9. I then proceeded to bring her down in a swift and controlled manner. She had both feet on the ground in less than 90 seconds or so. I left the suspension line in place and secured until I checked that she had all her faculties, which she did.

10. I released her from the suspension line and then used the quick release on the Reverse Portuguese Bowline to let her hands come down from the tie. I then took the remaining rope off her body.

11. Once the rope was off we sat down and she had some water and I proceed to check her right hand. I was checking to see if she may have had radial nerve compression.
a. I had her first grasp my hand and squeeze lightly…that was okay.
b. I then had her do it again with more strength…still okay.
c. Next I had her touch her thumb to each of her fingers independently…that too was okay.
d. What she did notice is that she did not have complete control of her thumb. It would not move upward. It did, however, move downward and was able to exert pressure when grasping my fingers and hers.

12. It appeared to me that she did have some minor nerve compression of her radial nerve. Very mild as this is the nerve that is involved in controlling the movement of the thumb. She should regain all her ability to control her thumb within a day or two. I have checked with her and she is just about 100% today.

The point to the above situation is this…by listening to the rope bottom, checking her at each phase, and then making the judgment call to bring her down I avoided what could have been a more serious injury. So, I encourage all who suspend to check your bottoms and listen to them. It is far better to stop and ensure that your rope bottom is safe and secure then to expose them to unnecessary risk.

I can only imagine the seriousness of the radial nerve compression that may have occurred had I not brought her down when I did.

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I checked with David that he was happy to have this re-posted in full here - which he is - and he asked to have a link to his site included. Here it is: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.. Well worth a look!

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breast suspension

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:24:00 +0000

my girlfriend loves being hung up by her breasts .She is not happy unless her breast are bruised the next day . She loves me to fuck her while she is hanging just by her tits . Is this going to do her any harm ? Who else dose this ?

Treating new rope

Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:02:20 +0000

The postman just delivered some of Esinems linen hemp rope. I really like the non-hairyness, but it's a bit stiff at the moment. How should I treat it? How do people treat new ropes in general?

"Spreader bar" to hands/legs

Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:45:03 +0000

Been tinkering how to "properly" tie hands together with "spreader bar" (wrists about 30cm away) and get the knot in middle of the bar so I can attach her hands to chest harness.
Some modified two column tie? Wraps around the hand normally, but the middle with singled rope from both sides to middle?
I'm lost but my ropebunny has this done her once before (obviously with someone else) and she really did like it.