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Hojojutsu inspired ties
04-03-2010, 09:26 AM
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Hojojutsu inspired ties
I quite often use hojojutsu inspired ties in my shootings. Here are several examples.


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05-03-2010, 12:58 AM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
Thank you for posting these interesting photos. I particularly like the second one with that thick natural-fibre rope. To my mind it suits the style of ropework much better than modern synthetics do. It would be even more interesting to see front and back views of the same ties... Do you use the traditional rope around the front of the neck or do you modify the ties to avoid that, as most people these days would think advisable for "recreational" bondage?

I have a couple of Japanese-language books on hojojutsu with lots of complicated diagrams that I find very hard to follow, so I can't tell offhand how authentic and traditional your ties are. Where do you get the inspiration from? Do you follow traditional recipes or improvise on the basic structures? And I'd be very interested in any thoughts you may have on how secure these ties are when tested by a capable escaper...

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05-03-2010, 05:50 AM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2010 05:53 AM by lightspear.)
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
Here are three more examples from a later shooting, where you can see both front and back of one of these ties.

I find these diagrams a bit complicated too, but I have quite an experience in martial arts ties, so this is somewhat easier for me to replicate hojojutsu ties found in mentioned here books.

And yes, I use both traditional rope around the front of the neck (images 4443, 4457 and 4468) and rope around the shoulders and middle of the back (images 0031, 3657, 3672, 3734 and 3845) where I'm not sure that model feels OK.

And when it comes to testing these ties by a capable escaper... You should understand that these ties were designed to prevent even a thought of escape. When I demonstrate these and other ties to Special Forces men or to Martial Artists, they are very effective because I do them very tight. When I use the same ties in bondage shooting, I understand that model should be in this position for at least 20 minutes and that she must have quite a freedom to move on the floor or on the couch. So the same ties could be quite different when applied to different persons and for different purposes.
And other pics that didn't fit into previous message.


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05-03-2010, 10:35 AM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
What beautiful work, thanks for sharing it! You manage to get marvelous facial expressions from your models. That aspect of bondage photography is often somewhat lost on me, but besides the ropework it was the first thing I noticed.
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06-03-2010, 04:38 AM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
What a fun series of ties! Thanks for sharing the images.
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07-03-2010, 02:55 PM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
Call me a heretic but I think one can regard a lot of 'round the neck' ties in the same light as a man's necktie, which is after all the dreaded slip knot around the throat when all's said and done. Unless you are a complete idiot, it's not going to lead to serious consequences. I think that it put's it in perspective.

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07-03-2010, 03:34 PM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
Why, I will not call you a heretic, I use this quite often and nothing serious ever happened.

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07-03-2010, 08:41 PM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
(07-03-2010 02:55 PM)esinem Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Call me a heretic but I think one can regard a lot of 'round the neck' ties in the same light as a man's necktie, which is after all the dreaded slip knot around the throat when all's said and done. Unless you are a complete idiot, it's not going to lead to serious consequences. I think that it put's it in perspective.

I duuno, I see it as being on a continuum, with the man's neck tie on one end and the hangman's noose on the other. A hojojustu tie which is designed to choke a prisoner if they struggle, obviously carries more risks than a necktie, but less than a noose.

But like every other kind of play we do, it all carries risk. As long as people are "risk aware," I say have at it.

The other issue for me, and maybe it is different in the UK, is that on any given day at most of the US clubs you are going to find at least a handful of people for whom "complete idiot" is a kind moniker.
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08-03-2010, 12:37 PM
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
I think one big problem with rope around the neck is that a lot of people (especially those with only half a clue) preach "Don't do it! Never ever! Totally unsafe, leads to death in a a few seconds, the boogeyman will get you!". This prevents any kind of reasonable exploration of the risks involved and the possible benefits. For example researching the basic anatomy of the neck, for example researching how and why strangling and choking techniques work. And this of course leads to higher risks for all parties involved.
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13-03-2010, 08:45 PM (This post was last modified: 16-03-2010 08:16 AM by BossMason.)
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RE: Hojojutsu inspired ties
Very nice! I too like ropes around the neck. It's a controllable and predictable risk.

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